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« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2010, 06:49:08 AM »

hahaha.... it's like Christmas all over  Grin

I have actually been emailing back n forth with an individual at genius about porting their mouspen drivers to linux.
They have the best prices out there today, far more affordable than the giant Wacom is, and they are beginning to realize that in doing so, would create a huge sales increase for them once word got out that their products come with a ready to go linux driver installer disc.  Wink

 I'll keep everyone posted as progress is made  on it.
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« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2010, 11:00:05 AM »

hahaha.... it's like Christmas all over  Grin

Yes, it was!  Her birthday was last Friday so now she has a good present (It was nice to go spend the day with her on her birthday, but it's even nicer she can play with her new toy!)

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I have actually been emailing back n forth with an individual at genius about porting their mouspen drivers to linux.
They have the best prices out there today, far more affordable than the giant Wacom is, and they are beginning to realize that in doing so, would create a huge sales increase for them once word got out that their products come with a ready to go linux driver installer disc.  Wink

 I'll keep everyone posted as progress is made  on it.

Excellent!!!!   If genius does it, maybe Wacom will take the hint as well.....
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« Reply #32 on: February 15, 2010, 07:21:35 PM »

It's a possibility.
Far too often, companies completely forget about this end of the market.
Anyone would think someone completely insane for not wanting to increase their sales margin, but this is exactly what many do in this field.
The cost to get someone to work up a linux script for the drivers, is petty compaired to the potential income from such a venture.
Let's say 10,000 linux users, purchasing a $40.00 pen tablet, because it comes with drivers for Linux? That's a hefty sum and not at all an unreasonable figure to project.
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« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2010, 09:52:38 AM »

They also need to think about the 10,000 or more users that might not buy their $40 tablet because it doesn't come with Linux drivers and is a B#%*@ to configure!!!  There's a $400,000 loss (if my math is correct.....)

I think the least expensive Wacom is about $80..... that times 10,000 prospective sales is $800,000 instead.

I don't understand why all companies don't work on Linux drivers for their products..... (we talked about Kodak in another forum) - do they REALLY think their sales loss is not high enough to be worth the effort???

Too bad, it's their loss, because there's a bunch of us not buying their products!!!
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« Reply #34 on: February 16, 2010, 12:48:04 PM »

You're forgetting the cost involved in porting and continually maintaining the driver for each and every new kernel that pops up.  The profit margin is reduced by the salary of the person porting the driver plus the cost of the benefits, health insurance, and the operating costs of the company. 

A junior level programmer could easily cost the company at least $75,000 just in a yearly wage, assuming it is a decent company that provides _average_ healthcare in the United States you'll have to double the wage to find out how much the company is going to spend just to keep the entry level guy employed and healthy.  Not to mention the cost of keeping the driver ported to each and every new kernel.

That $400,000 profit is roughly cut in half.

Remember, nVidia doesn't have a problem doing this because of the huge contracts they have in the graphics workstation market, for a tablet company that has never supported Unix before that doesn't have any experience in supporting this insane platform the profit margin outlined above isn't worth the risk because it assumes that people will buy their product when there is no guarantee of anyone purchasing their product.

Now if the US Congress would listen to ordinary people and the American Medical Assoc. instead of the lobbyists of the health-insurance industry, and pass a health care bill that didn't suk donkey butt that profit margin would rise, but there is too much money coming in that is preventing decent health care reform.   Sad
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« Reply #35 on: February 16, 2010, 05:02:26 PM »

It's not that the wacom driver is so hard to install once you understand  it. The later builts of Ubuntu come with it configured. there has been some issues with the older .fdi file but that was an easy fix and there is good support on there forum. Wacom is giving good support to the  Wacom Project, it a cheap way of  keeping things updated.
All of this said:  the  Linux  market is changing to more non- geek  types so they will have to make things easier which some distros are addressing.

@Mee Maw Glad to hear you got things working, Tablets are  great once you get the hang of them.
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« Reply #36 on: February 17, 2010, 10:07:17 AM »

It's not that the wacom driver is so hard to install once you understand  it. The later builts of Ubuntu come with it configured. there has been some issues with the older .fdi file but that was an easy fix and there is good support on there forum. Wacom is giving good support to the  Wacom Project, it a cheap way of  keeping things updated.
All of this said:  the  Linux  market is changing to more non- geek  types so they will have to make things easier which some distros are addressing.

@Mee Maw Glad to hear you got things working, Tablets are  great once you get the hang of them.

No, it's not so hard once you do it a couple of times!!!  (Haha)  I just think it would be nice if all the hardware one could buy would have a Linux driver (at least in the repository!!!!)
They are nice enough to do it for Windows and Mac... I just feel there are enough of us now that we should get the same courtesy...  (I know, get real...)

Thanks again, sawer!!! I had a blast with it while I had it! She called today, and it seems to be great... her only thought is that CellWriter should be expanded to recognize cursive as well as hand-printed text.... but she's getting it/herself trained!
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« Reply #37 on: February 17, 2010, 11:13:30 AM »

MeeMaw: Some distro  wacom will work out of the box, the later Ubuntu family are like that
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« Reply #38 on: February 17, 2010, 01:33:22 PM »

You know what’s curious about this is that the Wacom tablet I use worked out of the box. Granted it’s an older Volito2 tablet but I didn’t have to set it up at all.

I tried it in My Paint and the pressure sensitivity worked to where heavy pressure on the pen caused thick lines and light pressure created very thin lines.

Maybe because it’s only a tablet, pen, and 2 buttons on the pen?

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« Reply #39 on: February 17, 2010, 03:36:09 PM »

Like I said some distros work out of the box. I think you are running Mepis which works out of the box for the most  part.
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« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2010, 09:38:50 AM »

MeeMaw: Some distro  wacom will work out of the box, the later Ubuntu family are like that

Some of them are..... however, there are lots of guys posting to LinuxWacom-Discuss that are using Ubuntu and still having problems.... and one of the threads in the Ubuntu forum is 84 pages long!!!! (I think it's the testing thread though.. the other one is 53 pages or something like that...)

I've heard the .33 kernel may fix a lot of that.... I'm hoping the new release of PCLinuxOS will solve some of it..... but I think they are going to use the .32 - definitely safer to use a fully tested one.

I'll let you know..... if you are interested.
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