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« on: August 09, 2009, 04:49:10 AM » |
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Just when I thought things couldn't get any worse, I'm back on Slackware!  ...long rant about why it's the best and only true linux distro... But anyways...I got Xaralx to compile and run!  Installed wxwidgets 2.6.4 and after that it was just a matter of compiling and 'make install' xaralx. Now I just gotta re-compile the kernel, build vlc, fix audio, fix ugly gtk theme, fix fonts, make booting faster....oh jesus, where's my kubuntu disc... |
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rji
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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2009, 02:57:52 AM » |
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It could be worse. You could be forced to "mix" two completely incompatible versions of an interpreted programming language to support the next version of your 3D modelling software _and_ the rest of the programs on your system that depend on the older version of that programming language because of an arbitrary and myopic decision being made behind the scenes with little to no user input.
But anyway, it would be an interesting use of your time to compare how much time you spend "turning things on" in Slackware v. "turning things off" in *buntu.
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2009, 04:28:44 AM » |
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It could be worse. You could be forced to "mix" two completely incompatible versions of an interpreted programming language to support the next version of your 3D modelling software _and_ the rest of the programs on your system that depend on the older version of that programming language because of an arbitrary and myopic decision being made behind the scenes with little to no user input.
God have mercy on your soul  But anyway, it would be an interesting use of your time to compare how much time you spend "turning things on" in Slackware v. "turning things off" in *buntu.
Taking the fun factor into the equation it ain't so bad... OTOH I didn't turn things off in *buntu, but I understand what you mean. I just compiled Linux 2.6.30.4, and..well quite a disappointment, I remember way back when I was still on 2.4 and reconfiguring and compiling had quite an impact on performance. Cant really notice any difference now....aaaahhhh the good old days Actually I remember compiling 2.4.29 and when booting to the cli the system was using 4 megs of ram. Running X and kde 3.x using around 80 mb of ram. Using 467mb now with KDE 4.2.4. Boot times were less than 30 secs. |
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2009, 08:19:30 AM » |
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God have mercy on your soul The technical part of it is easy, at least for me. The problem I have with it is that it is another package that needs to be tracked outside of the package manager on my system and I know there will be people using the long term releases (Debian Stable, *buntu LTS, RHEL 4, SLED, etc.) that will expect blender 2.5 to just work when they go to use it and it won't because of the new dependency. Taking the fun factor into the equation it ain't so bad... But is it as fun as Stage 1 Gentoo installs? |
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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2009, 12:16:40 AM » |
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Gentoo scares the bejeepers outta me Those are not people... they are aliens... I swear they are!!  |
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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2009, 04:35:33 AM » |
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Slackware was the first distro I tried to install. I had a modem, was downloading to floppies, lots of floppies. I remember something about partitions for each Linux directory. It was still way more exciting than DOS/win95. I never got it to work. Red Hat 3.5 was next, pretty much installed it self.
All that compiling stuff is lost on me, was even hooked on instant coffee then.
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2009, 07:29:24 AM » |
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hehe.. of course now-a-days, we have "instanter" coffee |
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2009, 09:27:25 AM » |
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Gentoo scares the bejeepers outta me Those are not people... they are aliens... I swear they are!! Oh funny! I've felt that way about installing Debian...it's just something so alien and scary....Yet I've installed other Linux distros. |
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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2009, 09:37:15 AM » |
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Gentoo scares the bejeepers outta me Those are not people... they are aliens... I swear they are!! Oh funny! I've felt that way about installing Debian...it's just something so alien and scary....Yet I've installed other Linux distros. Heh! I remember feeling like that installing Suse 9.1 after playing with Mandrake. The Mandrake installer was SO much more obvious/easy to understand. I've installed Debian a few times and the ncurses type interface doesn't bother me anymore after doing so many other installs using a GUI for partitioning and all that. I guess it's like anything else - the more you do, the more you learn. |
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Ssh! I'm trying to concentrate!!
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2009, 12:20:34 AM » |
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Gentoo scares the bejeepers outta me Those are not people... they are aliens... I swear they are!! Oh funny! I've felt that way about installing Debian...it's just something so alien and scary....Yet I've installed other Linux distros. I remember almost pulling my hair out with the Debian Woody installer on an old p3 Compaq laptop, the new Debian installer is a breeze in comparison. The real fun came when I tried to install Source Mage Linux on that laptop and Xfree86 blew it up during compilation, literally. There is nothing like watching pale blue smoke waft out of the cooling ducts of a machine to make you question the wisdom of compiling everything. |
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2009, 08:55:55 AM » |
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oh man, we warned you not to click the "blue e", it went blueeee!!
I tell ya conholster and rji, you get my nod, I just do instant Linux, you grow, reap, grind, brew and quaff (swallow in large draughts). Do you think compiling is akin to alchemy? Isaac Newton had it. I've seen that same look on the face of folks learning Pascal (sort of like Egon Spengler of Ghostbusters).
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2009, 10:24:51 AM » |
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When it goes beyond "click to install" for me, I can be found days later, with a glazed & confused look over an empty stare to my eyes, mouth agape and drooling, and just barely breathing. |
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2009, 01:26:17 PM » |
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When it goes beyond "click to install" for me, I can be found days later, with a glazed & confused look over an empty stare to my eyes, mouth agape and drooling, and just barely breathing. this is me all over ... i guess i have been spoilt by the Distro's i have used .... Peace!!! Kori |
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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2009, 07:22:09 PM » |
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oh man, we warned you not to click the "blue e", it went blueeee!! Do you think compiling is akin to alchemy? Isaac Newton had it.
If you know exactly what you want out of your system and can plan accordingly with your configuration compiling everything is closer to baking a quiche that has risen all nice and fluffy with melt in your mouth goodness, if you do it wrong it is just a nasty omelet. |
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